March 15, 2002

PM Update - Cross and Stake Update

Angel X updated the spoiler page at the Cross and Stake.

Entropy

NEW! When Buffy and Spike run into each other while on patrol, they chat and Spike again raises the issue of Buffy confessing to her friends about her "relationship" with him. Although she doesn't want to, Buffy's confident her friends will get over it since they dealt with her trying to kill them.

NEW! After discovering the camera planted at Buffy's house, Xander suspects Spike is behind the spying and Buffy confronts him on the issue. He isn't responsible, but his anger towards Xander only increases when Buffy seems to actually believe her friend over Spike.

NEW! Unable to curse Xander with the help of other Scoobies, Anya goes to someone who actually hates Xander: Spike. Unfortunately though, her efforts to get him drunk and trick him into wishing Xander bodily harm take a turn for the twisted and the two very drunk demons end up trying to sooth their broken hearts by moving on...with each other. What the two don't realize though is that a hidden camera in the Magic Box catches the whole event on camera, allowing the entire rest of the gang and the Trio to witness it.


Seeing Red

NEW! The Trio do something that leads to Jonathan and Andrew getting arrested. Warren on the other hand avoids being caught and instead begins his solo career. If you doubted he was evil before...you won't by the end of this episode.

NEW! Spike locates Buffy and tries to make her "feel" again, but ignores the fact that she isn't interested. Buffy overpowers him and makes it very clear that he went *too* far, which awakens Spike to the reality of the situation. He acts of his own free will, but he is led by emotions and his intentions are not to hurt her. (Thanks to Wendy for help in clarifying some details.)


Villains

NEW! Spike shows up in Africa where he puts his life on the line to get the chip out. He meets with a demon and confidently agrees to take on whatever challenges the demon offers as long as he gets the chip removed if he wins.

NEW! With so much danger surrounding the gang, Buffy takes Dawn to stay with Spike, but instead encounters Clem crypt-sitting for the vampire and learns that Spike left Sunnydale for a while.

She also posted some further information on the Spoiler Board (combined from multiple posts)

Knew I forgot something. Buffy doesn't decide to sent Dawn to Spike. It's entirely Dawn's choice and Buffy's really not in a position to argue. Buffy *knows* that despite what Spike did and could do to *her*, he could and would never do that to Dawn. The relationship he has with Dawn has never been anything but protective and he would die for her as he's proven many times. Buffy, on the other hand, has always been able to take his forcefulness and occasional violence, so whatever forcefulness he uses in 19 is somewhat based on previous experiences where Buffy doesn't mind that behavior so much. It's not an attempt to hurt her, it's him acting like he used to with her, but this time, she's not falling for him.

This of course, is addressed in 20 when Dawn announces that she wants to go to Spike... it shouldn't be ignored. :)

Spike wants to get the chip out to give Buffy a changed man. But I don't know whether that's is to get the chip out and prove that he can be good without it, or get the chip out and be bad. He's not happy with who he's become with the chip, of course, but who knows where things could lead. He may not even be able to get the chip out for all I know.

Do Spike and Anya actually go all the way?

Yes, but it's not a life-changing experience for either one of them. Just one of those desperate moments that really accomplishes nothing but getting both in trouble with their ex's.

I wanted to know if Buffy had already seen the tape by the time Spike tries to have sex with her again in Ep. 19. That would explain why she was not interested.

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Do the only get the visual or do they hear it too some of the conversation before hand could be enlighting?

The gang see it as it's happening, which leads to more drama later in the episode.

And Spike having sex with Anya isn't exactly the only reason for Buffy not wanting him. Aside from the whole "not being involved with him anymore," there's more that's unveiled later in 18 and some in 19 that ads to her reasons for not being interested. The fact that she's very adamant about them not being together anymore and not loving him should be enough, but there are other possible reasons as well.

I'll be adding some of these spoilers to the Spoiler Slayer page tonight.

This weekend, I'll be back on the speculation train. Saturday's post will likely address the topic of the 'Big Scooby Death'. Sunday will cover a variety of other topics, including why I don't think there will be a 'full reset or reversal' at Season's end.



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